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Stan Howe
Brass Carburetors
4433 Red Fox Dr
Helena, Mt 59602
USA

406-949-3448 cell
email: stanhowemt@aol.com

June 23, 2017

As of June 30, 2017 I will be making some changes in my carburetor business. I will not be taking in any new repair work to be completed before November 1, 2017. I need to get caught up in the shop -- and have many other business and personal interests that also need my attention.

After about 15 years of this, I still like doing the rebuilding and turning a piece of brass into a functioning part of an antique automobile, truck or tractor. However, this is not a modern repair shop where there are parts on the shelf. This is a restoration service which sometimes requires me to spend hours and hours to make one small part or tearing down half a dozen parts carbs to find one needed part. It is very time consuming. I also test run and adjust virtually every carburetor to make sure it will work as expected when delivered.

I can not and do not promise any return dates. You can request that I get your work done when you want it but that means someone else is waiting for theirs.

If you need a carb rebuilt be aware that it will not be back on your schedule, it will be back when I can get it done. I am still working on a back log from 2016 and earlier.

In 2016 I got 16 carburetors in from a museum and 7 others for rebuild in one week. I have carburetors in museums and collections all over the world but make them wait like everybody else.

At this point I am caught up to where I have about 15 or 20 to get done and in the mail and I will be pretty much caught up. I may or may not accept any more work at that point. I am old, getting older every day and every year and like most people, I am not as healthy 40 years ago when I was 35 and could work all day and night day after day. I also have three other businesses including owning one of Montana's largest auction companies and have a couple girls and a college age boy I am helping raise. They and their activities interest me and I will continue to attend their school activities, play music together and spend time with them doing other things -- helping them rebuild their 1948 CJ2A Jeep, teaching them to drive, etc.

I do not know of anyone else who does this work on brass carburetors so have no where else to send you.

Also, be aware that I no longer work on ANY Model T Ford carburetors newer than the Holley G. I do work on the early Holleys for pre-T and early T Fords, Kingston ball types and the Holley G's. I started this business pretty much by accident when I bought a Model T with a Stromberg OF that leaked like a sieve but ran well. I fixed it, sold the car, bought another OF, fixed it etc. I have now done well over 1,000 of those and will continue to buy, rebuild and sell those as I have time. (As some of you may know, I spent over 40 years following in my father and grandfathers' footsteps as a violin repairman and maker. Another grandfather was a jeweler and they were all farmers so I grew up working on anything that needed fixing.)

In mid July I hope to have a list of carburetors for sale from my extensive inventory and collection. I have several hundred carburetors in stock as well as one of the more extensive Model T Ford Accessory Carburetor collections. Pretty much everything is for sale.

If you wish to be notified send me an email at stanhowemt@aol.com and I will notify you when it is available.

If you have a carburetor here and do not wish to wait any longer let me know and I will either get it done and to you or send it back with your payment. But do not call me, especially when you are drunk on a Sunday afternoon and start ranting at me. I will not tolerate that. Period. A recent episode of that was the impetus for this change in my business and this notification.

Thank you for 15 years of business. However, please do not send me any carburetor without calling or emailing me and making sure we are on the same page for return times and that there will be extra charges for missing major parts, badly damaged castings, etc. I also will no longer spend half a day disassembling a rusted, corroded, dented carburetor with missing and damaged parts and then have you tell me "The wife won't let me spend that much money on it, just send it back and I'll fix it myself" and expect me to deliver it to your son that happens to be in Helena on a Sunday morning so you don't have to pay return shipping. The law of the west is to check your purse before you order a round for the house. That is what it will be here from now on. I deal with customers and have plenty of work from people who are willing to pay for my time and expertise, I don't need that kind of people wasting my time.

I regret that I can no longer spend hours on the phone or answering emails every day giving advice on carburetors - rebuilding - etc. I will also no longer be buying much inventory. Send me an email with photos if you wish but I may not be able to answer it as soon as you wish.
Stan Howe, Helena, Montana.
Stanhowemt@aol.com 406-949-3448

Below is from earlier in 2017.

I am back in the shop and working every day, rebuilding and selling carburetors. I got a lot done over the winter but am ALWAYS behind. I am working on the back log of repairs and for the most part, try to get them out in the order they came in. This time of year I am getting a lot of work in so it will be some time before you get your carb back if you send it in. I try to get orders out for carbs that are sold as soon as possible but have NO stock of rebuilts on the shelf ready to go, all the ones I rebuilt over the winter have already sold and either are gone or will be within a few weeks.
New arrivals, special interest and rare carbs are on the SPECIAL CARBS FOR SALE tab, click it to see what I have.
You can call me at 406-949-3448 or email me at stanhowemt@aol.com. I try to answer every call as it comes in but you may have to leave me a message. I will call you back as soon as possible and answer emails as soon as I can get a minute or two to do so.

Thank you for the support of this little one old man business.

Thanks, Stan Howe

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Other Carburetors

This is part of my aftermarket/accessory carburetor collection on display at the winter seminar in Hutchinson, Kansas in January 2012. I compiled the book on the table and gave one to each attendee. They are also available for sale.

Below are a few of the carbs shown above and some from the book, not anywhere near all of the carbs I have in the collection.

Above is a Carter

A Griffin

This is a Rayfield a rather odd design with a slanted flange to
allow room for it between the frame and engine.

A Harrington. These have a variable ventui and run quite well.

Neverfail. They have an interesting throttle plate that regulates
the mixture

Stokes -- never seen another one.

This is a Russell and my be a prototype or at the least, NOS.

Above is an Ensign, one of several designs they made for T's

This may actually be from a Metz but it bolts right up to the
Ford manifold.

Triple Mix. This would have had a tube from the exhaust
manifold bringing in heated air and heating the carb. I have
two of these and have never been able to find anything about them

This is a Kingston with an odd adjustment set up.

One of the most interesting, a Floatless. You pour a little gas in to get
it started the first time, then supposedly it operates just on the gas it
needs to run. It has an air valve plate attached to the arm.

A little Griffin #3. The must have sold thousands of these.

Liberty -- this has an electrically heated coil in the throat for starting.

Sunderman -- square. The intake has a plate that controls the mixture.
I've heard they run well but I've never tried it.

A Booty - This is the rarest of the rare. It is an air valve type,
may be a prototype, it appears to never have been run.

Air Friction -- these are pretty common

One of several carbs Rayfield made for the T. These are fussy to get adjusted but do run well.

Swan -- this was the first of the heated manifolds. They run very well.

Stromberg OF, the best all around T carb of all.

Winfield

Zenith S4fb
These are a great carb and very popular for speedsters

U & J not very economical on fuel but great performance

Mayer -- very nice small carb for all around driving. Many of the manifolds have been
diverted to speedsters.

H & N This may be the only one in the world. It has a variable venturi, adjustable with a thumb wheel
through the slots in the body. It is missing the idle screw.

A big ugly Marvel

Stromberg RF

Shebler Model R

Miller Master. They are supposed to be one of the best. I've not had one running.

Accessory carburetors made for the Model T over the years. According to some sources, there were over 100 different ones. Most of these are from my collection but a few a photos I copied from Internet sites. If you have an interesting carburetor mail me a photo and I'll add it to this page.

Below is a Stromberg RF This is the carb that replaced the OF in 1925

It is aluminum bodied and was most often painted a dark green. They are an excellent carburetor, equally as good running as the OF but today are hard to find in restorable condition. Because of the reaction between the Aluminum and brass parts they sometimes prove to be impossible to disassemble. I can rebuild these but need to see the carb and see if I can get the idle screw out before I commit to a rebuild.

Following are some pictures of a recently rebuilt RF

This is an RF that I recently rebuilt and powder coated in black.

This is a U & J that I recently rebuilt and sold.

They are wonderful carbs-especially for speedsters.
I have one more just like it for sale.
This has a newly made float and modern needle and seat in it. They run great but don't make great gas mileage. They look really cool on a speedster and look good on just about any T. You do have to make some linkage as the throttle shaft is horizontal and actuates up and down. Once adjusted, these will handle about any conditions with no further adjustment. Great Carb!!!

Nearly every one of these I have ever seen has a brass bowl that is cracked. They were pretty thin and didn't hold up well. A Holley G bowl looks like it will fit but doesn't without modification. I machine the carb body a little and the bowl a little and it works much better. I like the look of the Holley brass bowls on these but don't have any at the moment.

This is a U & J Model F that I recently rebuilt for a customer in Texas. They are a wonderful carburetor but like a lot of the accessory carbs, are hard to find parts for. I had a NOS needle and seat and float, otherwise the float would have to be made from scratch.

This is a Stromberg OE-1 recently rebuilt for a Model T Ford speedster project. These are great carbs and just right for a "souped up" Model T engine. While you see a lot of M-1's on speedsters, these are a better version of the Stromberg for them because they have the Economizer--which makes them idle far better. They also have an accelerator well, which makes for smoother acceleration on quick throttle openings. They are pretty readily available.

This is a Rayfield that is a little different than other Rayfields I've seen. This one runs very well but leaks gas. The needle and seat was a problem in most of these old carbs. It looks like this would have had a heat tube running to the exhaust manifold. There are some pictures of this after restoration on another page.

This is a Rayfield L2s from my collection.

The back side

View from the top. Pretty complicated carb. Probably used on a variety of cars -- just used different controls.

Here is a Stromberg OX3 that I recently rebuilt for a customer in Calgary. Beautiful carb, hard to find parts for. The are a rare carb and only the second one I have seen.

This is an AERO that I rebuilt for a customer from California. It is a beautifully machined carb and one that is almost impossible to find.

This is a Mayer. They are an interesting carb. This one is restored and running and for sale. It is one of the self regulating type, it has five little brass balls that raise off their seats to regulate the air flow and mixture. Very well built, higher quality than many of the carbs are.

This is a very rare one, it is a Bootie. No one I know has ever seen another of these. This is either new old stock or was run very little.

Here are two Griffins, almost identical. They were pretty popular in the day.

This is a smaller version of a Griffin

This is a very rare H & N. I've never seen another. It has a variable, adjustable venturi.

Here is a Harrington. They were advertised in a lot of magazines and are pretty common today

This is a Kingston 4 ball from the Robb Wolff collection

A Liberty with an electric heating element designed to help cold weather starting.

This is a Marvel. Notice the odd manifold

Mayer, they used 5 little brass balls to control the mixture. These run very well.

Neverfail. These were advertised in every farm magazine of the day.

This is a Rayfield. I got this picture off the Internet. I believe it is new old stock.

Sunderman made these square carbs for many different cars.

This was about the same as a stock Ford carb.

Two very interesting Triple Mix carbs. They are marked Patent Pending but I haven't been able to find anything about them. They took exhaust heat and ran it through the carb to preheat the mixture.

My favorite Speedster Carb, a U & J. I recently acquired two new old stock ones of these. They are for sale. One has the correct original manifold, the other has a repro manifold

These must have been pretty popular as there are still quite a few around.
It is a Wheeler Schebler.
The choke tube is aluminum and is usually broken when I find them.
This is a nice one.

This is a Model H Winfield. A nice running carb and pretty rare.

This is a Model M Winfield. Usually the choke bell is broken off as that is a lot of Weight for the carb throat to carry.

This is a Briscoe. It was sold under many different names -- Nothing special about how it runs.

Here is an Ensign. They made a lot of tractor carbs and advertised these in every farm magazine of the day. I've never had this one on an engine -- don't know how it runs.

This is one of several designs of Marvel. They were a large company and made a carburetor for virtually every car of the day. Buick used them as their factory carb for awhile in the teens.

This is a Van Briggle. Nothing special about it. Just another
puddle of gas with the air flow going over it.

Here is the accessory style of Zenith. They run quite well but have a problem
with the pot metal venturi swelling and cracking over the years. You can see
the cracks in this one in the access hole in the top.

Below is the more expensive style of Zenith that provided an accessory manifold so various Zenith carburetors could be used. These really gave performance depending on what carburetor was used. There manifolds are reproduced in aluminum. This is an original cast iron one. I have restored and sold two of these, they are a great speedster carb. This one went to a collector in Texas, I finally managed to find another one which should be restored by Christmas 2011.

Here is a picture of some of the shelves holding my collectible accessory carburetors. These are the ones that are not on display stands so far and are only the design that mounts directly to a stock Ford manifold. I'll add more pictures some time of the designs that have a purpose built manifold with the carburetor.

These are a few of the carbs I have in stock for rebuilding.

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